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October 6, 2008 8:54 AM PDT

Delta to filter porn on planes

Posted by Marguerite Reardon
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Porn on a plane? Not if you're flying Delta Air Lines.

(Credit: Delta Air Lines)

The airline, which plans to launch its in-flight Wi-Fi service later this year, has changed course on the controversial issue and now says it will block inappropriate Web sites from its Internet service, according to an article published Friday by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Previously, Delta said its flight attendants would handle situations on a case-by-case basis if passengers were viewing pornography in-flight. But now the airline says it's taking a different approach after receiving feedback from customers and flight attendants. The company is currently working with wireless provider Aircell to come up with a filter to block the inappropriate content, the newspaper said.

The question of what to do about porn-viewing passengers has been brewing for months. In September, American Airlines flight attendants and their union asked the airline to consider blocking or filtering traffic on its in-flight service. But American's management has resisted requests for putting any restrictions in place.

American Airlines and Delta are two of several airlines testing in-flight Wi-Fi. American has been offering the service on a limited basis since August 20 on some flights between New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, and between New York and Miami. Delta plans to have its entire domestic fleet of 330 aircraft outfitted with Wi-Fi by the middle of next year.

While Delta may be trying to appease the masses with its plan to filter traffic, that too is not without controversy. Earlier this year, the Denver International Airport took a lot flak for blocking access on its free Wi-Fi network to Web sites that officials deemed offensive. The filtering technology used there has been criticized for blocking nonporn sites such as Vanity Fair magazine and gossip site Perzhilton.com.

A Delta representative tried to reassure the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that the technology it plans to use would "limited in scope."

I understand that people don't want to be subjected to unpleasant images on their neighbor's laptop while en route. Believe me, I'd be annoyed too if someone next to me was surfing for porn on a long trip. But the fact is that it's difficult to limit or filter access to the Internet when you're asking people to pay for the service, especially when that filtering traffic may block some very legitimate sites. The Aircell service costs $9.95 on flights of three hours or less, and $12.95 on flights of more than three hours.

What's more, I'm not sure that porn on planes is really a major problem. People have certainly had access to racy magazines and DVDs for years, and in all my years of flying I've never once sat next to someone who even pulled out a Playboy magazine.

My gut feeling is that most people would be too embarrassed to call up their favorite porn sites while sitting elbow to elbow with other people. Of course, there could be that one in a million guy who can't make it from New York City to San Francisco without checking his favorite site. But filtering everyone else's traffic just to prevent this rare instance seems like overkill.

Certainly, there are lots of people who get drunk on flights. And I'm not a big fan of sitting next to someone who smells like a brewery and pukes in the little baggy they put in the seatback. But you don't see airlines banning booze. Right?

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by Perry_Clease October 6, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
Will they also filter rate-my-flight.com
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by Dalkorian October 6, 2008 5:07 PM PDT
Only by "accident". ;-)
by umbrae October 6, 2008 9:36 AM PDT
Welcome to Censorship Airlines... I agree with the author: who would surf porn when sitting next to someone. I have never seen anyone reading playboy or viewing porn films in public: that seems to be a private thing.
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by Lerianis October 6, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
Actually, I have seen people reading Playboy in public and most people don't have a problem with it. The fact is that it is time to tell the people who have a problem with porn where they can stick it and stop bowing to their legal threats and hyperbole.
by ssharkman October 7, 2008 9:39 AM PDT
you have not flown recently.
There are rude, nasty people out there.
If you want to surf porn, fly Virgin.
But if I see you surfing porn next to me, I'm going to spill my drink on your notebook.
by Solaris_User October 6, 2008 9:45 AM PDT
I only really care if censorship is done by the government but... I mean Delta can do this is they like.. I'm sure porn addicts wont be buying the service. (who would ever want porn on a plane anyhow..?) Seems a little trivial to me..
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by sythara October 6, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
Its a private company and they have a right to filter whatever they want, just like you have the right not to utilize their services.

I don't understand what the big deal is all about.
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by Lerianis October 6, 2008 9:52 AM PDT
No, they do not have a right to filter whatever they want. There is such a thing as 'free speech' and it includes being able to view whatever you want in public OR in private. Yes, free speech DOES cover being able to look at 'dirty' pictures if you so wish to.
by DangerousOffender October 6, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
Look, we're paying for these airline tickets & all the extra service charges and fees they pile on us. What is this, China? If I want to watch a gonzo movie in my seat & pound my pud under my blanket that I paid extra for, then so be it!
by unknown unknown October 6, 2008 11:21 AM PDT
@Lerianis actually the first amendment does not apply when you are using privately owned resources. Delta owns it, and therefore can control what people are allowed to do or view on it. Delta has no obligation to facilitate the exercise of your first amendment rights on their network.
by digiguy23 October 6, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
such crybaby for looking a naked women in a public place. Can't you people wait?
by Dalkorian October 6, 2008 5:17 PM PDT
Unknown unknown is right here, the government can't tell us what we can and can't say or read, but a private business supplying a service like this can. They are providing a service, they are not supplying a right. They are under no obligation to allow you to look up how to bring down commercial aircraft with a shoe string while in flight, nor are they obligated to allow you to watch porn.

That doesn't make this right, we all know it will be abused. But there are no laws preventing it. I don't agree with it, I personally find most forms of censorship to be abominable and would NEVER pay money for censorship. But it's not a Constitutional violation like some would like us to believe.
by eagledrc October 6, 2008 9:49 AM PDT
yeah, portable dvd players have been out for a while, and that's not a problem.. and people sometimes have stuff saved to their computer (hence not needing internet to view), and that's not a problem either right now.
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by gregorytga October 6, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
I have a feeling this is more to appease various parties as the pornaholic in question could easily bypass filtering through proxies or VPN. I imagine this might also be to prevent causal accidental porn viewing as anyone who's spent any increment of time on the internet has accidentally clicked a link that's taken them somewhere unintended..
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by Pishkado October 6, 2008 11:04 AM PDT
I agree that this is seldom a problem. (I currently have top-level status on one airline and mid-level on another, and was a Delta Gold Medallion several years running, so I spend enough time on airplanes to have an informed opinion here.) That said, unless they're also going to censor the magazines people read and the DVDs or other content they view without having to download it in flight, I think this is silly. The previous poster, gregorytga, has probably given the only two rational reasons for it: for appearance's sake and prevent accidents.
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by unknown unknown October 6, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
People can plan ahead. Those who want to watch porn on a plan (why I have no idea), can stuff their hard drives full of it before they get on board. Seems like a wasted effort to me.
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by Dalkorian October 6, 2008 5:20 PM PDT
It's just a feel good measure, makes good PR and not much else. Like others have pointed out, I could load tons of hard core bondage porn on my computer and watch that during the flight and there isn't much that anyone could do about it (except maybe beat the snot out of me for being such a perverted jerk). I could even buy a Playboy AT THE AIRPORT and read that in flight.
by digiguy23 October 6, 2008 11:41 AM PDT
There is a time and place for everything. Leave porn at home or in privacy.
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by Shoogle2 October 6, 2008 12:14 PM PDT
Sounds like a preemptive strike by the airlines on the advice from their lawyers to me. All it takes is one person to be "oh! ffended" by what's on the laptop next to them, and before you know it they're suing the entire airline industry for billions. Happens all the time in various ways, it's kind of the American way.
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by Wookiee-1138 October 6, 2008 12:52 PM PDT
What's to stop people from looking at racy content from their hard drives?

Short of the case-by-case approach, nothing!
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by Dalkorian October 6, 2008 5:22 PM PDT
You have demonstrated that you are more intelligent than many others by seeing right through this obvious loophole. Congratulations and be careful - THEY now know you're not just another sheep!
by strongpimphand October 7, 2008 12:12 AM PDT
The first thing people must realize is that the internet is not a RIGHT. Purely a privledge. Delta doesn't owe anything to anyone and even if you're paying for their services it doesn't matter!

I'm more than happy that Delta is even being upfront about this. The only thing I would ask is that they provide a list of banned sites before payment of their service. This way you can know what is being blocked before dishing out a crazy 10 dollars for 3 hours!

Regardles though, it's really simple; this is not a rights violation or a preemptive unecesary move. This is a power-play by Delta to prevent the jokel in the middle seat from watching some adult cartoon off of redtube and acting as if it is his right because he paid for a service. If I was running a company, I'd rather be in the news for something like this than a lawsuit because Larry in seat 5 row B couldn't contain himself and had to watch the trailer for the new Alexis Texas trailer in plain view of some 11 year old kids and now their parents are suing.


And to the notion that people can just stuff their HD with porn anyways, I must reply this; very true! BUT, also true is Delta can ban the passenger because of that (disrupting the flight sounds like an easy reason to book 'em). Then, they can notify local authorities of the passenger's actions (you try and show pornographic images to the youth. So many charges can be brought up....)
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by ssharkman October 7, 2008 9:42 AM PDT
If I see some loser viewing porn next to me, I'm spilling a drink on their notebook. If they have a spill proof keyboard, then I'm stumbling and will knock their notebook out of their hands. Then, if they still surf porn, I'm punching them in the head. I'm sure I'll get plenty of support from the rest of the cabin. If you want to surf porn, then fly Virgin.
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by Wookiee-1138 October 7, 2008 1:47 PM PDT
"If you want to surf porn, then fly Virgin."

Touche'
XD
by ssharkman October 7, 2008 9:44 AM PDT
When Obama is elected, he'll pay for Free Porn for Everyone!
Whoo Hoo!
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by garlord October 7, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
How could anyone justify such a needlessly punitive policy? They are taking an already miserable flying experience and making it even more humiliating in the futile attempt to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

There isn't a problem now with porn magazines, DVDs, and explicit files on hard drives, so I don't see how that will change with Wi-Fi. All Wi-Fi customers will end up paying more to cover the cost of the filters (which won't stop someone who really wants to get through), and some passengers will end up paying for internet access, only to find that non-porn sites (maybe even sites critical of the airline industry) are "inadvertently" blocked.

By charging customers for Wi-Fi access, it seems to me that the airline is acting as an ISP, and therefore is on shaky legal ground when they arbitrarily filter legal content (especially without justification). If allowed, it will set a precedent that undermines our civil liberties.
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by voyager529 October 12, 2008 11:58 PM PDT
One word justification: bandwidth.

Sure, it's equally true that they're not blocking youtube. I wonder if they're blocking P2P downloads and VoIP as well. The issue here though is that it's not too far fetched to put a block on certain content that is both potentially offensive to other passengers *and* takes up plenty of bandwidth to do it. They have similar filters at public libraries and public schools, too. Yes I'm paying for the use of the internet on the plane, but if I must have my pr0n fix, grab it before you get on the plane. I doubt that most people that hooked on pr0n are going to have the technical prowess to devise a VPN to access it, when it's much simpler to download the content before you leave home.

Between bandwidth and potential lawsuits, I don't see why this should put Delta in hot water. Besides, if you've got no intention of looking at pr0n on a plane, it won't affect you anyway as long as they do it intelligently (i.e. I think that a blacklist system is in order).

Joey
by JRFezziwig October 7, 2008 2:10 PM PDT
You might be surprised what some people will do in public. Years ago, my company set up a free Internet-access service with several hundred computers at Comdex when it was the world's largest computer show, and it amazed me how many people surfed for porn right there in the middle of a huge crowd.

Although it's true that one doesn't need the Internet to view porn on an airplane, that doesn't mean that Delta or any other airline should implicitly encourage it. Here's why:

Unlike the computer show, Delta often transports families with children, and if something offensive happens, you can't just take your children and leave; you're stuck with it until the plane lands. I think Delta is not only doing the right thing; it is doing the only reasonable thing under the circumstances.
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by defector777 October 7, 2008 9:16 PM PDT
I think what a lot of people aren't realising is that people's ideas about what is acceptable to do in public is constantly changing - there's a general tendency toward societal decline. 50 years ago, most people would have agreed that it was unacceptable to use 4 letter curse words in public, and you'd be apologizing afterwards if one slipped out when you were angry. Nowadays you can't walk down the street without hearing people of all backgrounds using them casually as a part of normal conversation. Same thing goes for some of the language allowed on broadcast TV. So yeah, maybe right now in October 2008 you can't imagine someone looking at porn right next to you, but a little ways down the road it might be quite a different story.
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by sonymaster101 October 12, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
And.... what is to stop anyone with any smarts from using a proxy server to get around any filter they set up? I mean, if you use a proxy server, nothing is off limits unless they have the proxy server blocked.
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by mdntcallr October 12, 2008 8:00 PM PDT
its common sense that people ought not read porn on an airplane. So much so i don't think that this is an issue.
However, welcome to Nanny State America, so of course the internet is going to be censored. Enjoy!

It isn't going to effect me, but i think it is actually kind of sad that there have been NO reports of actual porn use on the American Airlines system, and they just censor because people are apprehensive over the potential for porn.

weird.
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by just_curious October 16, 2008 8:24 PM PDT
For the sake of conjecture, let's say an individual opened a skin mag or played back a porn movie file from a hard drive or from an internet connection on a plane to truly test the LAWS of the land. Or, how about on a bus? Or anywhere there is forced proximity to others (minors excluded). Is this conduct expressly illegal by any statute? Or is it simply custom or social mores that prevents someone from doing it? If said conduct was currently illegal, Delta would not have earlier chosen to use the term "case by case basis". However, let's look at another behavior that was once in fact legal on airliners, smoking. Look what happens if you try to SMOKE on an airplane today. Civil fines for smoking on an airline flight range from $2,200 for smoking in an airplane seat or cabin to $3,300 for smoking in an airplane lavatory. Tampering with a smoke detector installed in an airplane lavatory is punishable by a $2,200 fine. 14 C.F.R. § 121.317(g), (h), (i) (2005); 49 U.S.C.A. § 46301 (2005). Nobody wanted secondhand smoke. Laws were enacted. Penalties applied. Similarly, nobody wants secondhand porn. Give "porn in public" the same vilified status as smoking was given. That money shot might one day become costlier than you thought.
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