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August 20, 2008 6:35 PM PDT

Microsoft launches 3D wonder Photosynth for consumers

Posted by Josh Lowensohn
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Photosynth, a technology demo from Microsoft Live Labs, has graduated from its "ooh, that's pretty" status to being a viable Web service for consumers.

The technology, which takes a grouping of photographs and stitches them into a faux 3D environment, can now be implemented with photos you've taken on your digital camera or mobile phone, and converted right on your computer. Previously, the process of stitching these photos together took weeks of processing on specially configured server arrays. With its latest version, Microsoft has managed to shrink that into around the time it takes to upload your photos.

Microsoft is giving users 20GB of online storage for their Photosynth collections. Photosynth product manager Joshua Edwards tells me this can easily fit 60 or more "synths" made up of around 150 to 200 photographs apiece--the higher end of what's recommended for what Edwards calls an optimum or "synthy" experience. Users who are making really neat collections will be granted additional space.

I spent the past few days building my own Photosynths and finally managed to get the knack for how to shoot correctly by the third one. While Microsoft has largely pushed it as a way to build jaw-dropping 3D-like environments, I'd argue to say it's a far simpler way to take super detailed shots of a wall or single room without breaking the bank on a high megapixel SLR. That said, Photosynth will take any resolution of photos you throw at it.

This synth I created uses close to 300 photos, although you can make ones with many less. Part of the creation process involves learning how to take photos for it to recognize how objects relate to one another.

(Credit: CNET Networks/Josh Lowensohn)

One of the most impressive parts of Photosynth is how damn fast it is. Over a decent broadband connection you'll immediately see large thumbnails that quickly begin to sharpen as data fills in the missing pixels. You can continue to zoom into these areas and they'll sharpen up even more on some of the super high-resolution shots.

The streaming and rendering technology behind Photosynth is Seadragon, another project from the Microsoft Live Labs universe. Users have always had to download a special Seadragon-based plug-in to view other people's synths. The new twist with the latest plug-in now comes with a desktop uploader that can be used to add your own collection to the Photosynth universe. This runs with complete autonomy from your browser, so you don't have to worry about it stopping if you close out your browser. It also works in both IE 7 and Firefox 3, making it cross-platform--at least for Microsoft. If you're a Mac user looking to get your hands on some Photosynth action you'll have to keep waiting. The focus on Photosynth will remain on the PC for the time being.

One thing that's missing from this version of Photosynth is a way to synth pre-existing photo collections, or sets of photos taken from community sites. This is the most useful for things like common landmarks, and is clearly something that can be done with the right photo database--something we saw in that really nifty video from Siggraph last week. In the case of Photosynth, once you've uploaded a batch of photos you can't simply upload more to it later. Gary Flake, who heads up Microsoft's Live Labs, says this is something that's coming later on down the road. For now, you'll just have to plan ahead.

Note: We've got a video coming up soon with Flake chatting about the technology behind Photosynth. In the meantime, if you want to explore my synth of the outside of the CBS Interactive offices in downtown San Francisco, go here.

Update: Here's the video.


Update 2: Photosynth has been up and down since early Thursday morning. You can check for the status of it on the Live Labs blog.

Update 3: Site's back up.

Josh Lowensohn is an associate editor for Webware.com, CNET's blog about cool and otherwise useful Web applications and services. If you've found a site you'd like profiled, shoot him an e-mail. E-mail Josh.
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by jumpjetta August 20, 2008 6:46 PM PDT
*snore* windows only.
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by yitipng August 20, 2008 7:16 PM PDT
disappointed... can't work with Firefox or Safari.
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by Josh.Lowensohn August 20, 2008 7:17 PM PDT
Works with both FF3 and IE7. Are you on a Mac perchance?
by NateBiggity August 22, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
Sometimes it helps to read the article.
by kujotx August 20, 2008 7:17 PM PDT
*sweet* windows only!
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by j_a_s_p_e_r August 20, 2008 7:27 PM PDT
Can you imagine the possibilities for crime scene photography? Wow! I played with Photosynth quite a bit in beta, and the interface takes some getting used to. Its not 3D in the true sense, more like lthe projected (flat) images of a 3D environment arranged in a way that common areas are aligned in 3D space.

I can see a future where you can submit your photos of a famous location and find related content, or submit a photo and find where it is on earth...
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by Vegaman_Dan August 20, 2008 9:49 PM PDT
I've had to deal with chain of custody evidence in photography before. Any maiipulation of the data can and will invalidate or compromise the evdience making it inadmissable. This tool, while perhaps useful in an investigation, could never be used in court.
by nathansw August 20, 2008 7:37 PM PDT
Works great on FireFox for me.
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by W1dget August 20, 2008 9:50 PM PDT
As sad, tacky and in poor taste as it might be, the porn industry will almost certainly be an early adopter of this technology
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by NateBiggity August 22, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
hahaha nice
by rafe August 20, 2008 10:47 PM PDT
Works fine in Firefox for me.

@W1dget Hah! But... no. Photosynth likes edges and static scenes. Porn, or any image collection that's mostly curvy and moving living things, not architecture, is much harder to "synth."
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by david.r.jennings August 21, 2008 9:01 AM PDT
What is this 1995? What kind of moronic company offers new "In-the-cloud Web" software that only runs on one OS, and only supports a couple of browser types? Oh wait... that would me Microsoft!

It won't even run on Fusion or Parallels in a virtual PC environment. Typical.
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by Penguinisto August 21, 2008 9:52 AM PDT
Cute, but MetaCreation's Canoma (now resting in Corel's software graveyard) has been doing exactly this since the mid-1990's, and works on both Windows and MacOS.

IOW, aside from the "ooh, lookit - it's on the cloooud!" aspect, this is not exactly an innovation, you know?

Canoma was part of a group of apps (the other three are Bryce, Poser, and Carrara) that do 3D/CG.
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by dajunga August 21, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
Canoma was great for it's time - but the real breakthrough here is what is going on behind the scenes. Photosynth is able to figure out the similarities between massive amounts of photos taken from one or many sources and stitch them together - All of this without any additional information from the user.

You would have to "pin" every single object over however many photos using Canoma to get a similar affect. Good luck with that. The photo recognition technology on display with Photosynth is really what all the hype is about - and it really is well deserved.
by kojacked August 21, 2008 12:22 PM PDT
Whaa Whaa Whaa... It doesn't work on my Amiga! I'm telling mom!

Since when does the OS or browser an application runs in defines it as innovative or even "good"? That's like saying all of the new cars coming out this year are "the suck" because they don't run on electricity.

It's free so what are you complaining about? Oh, my bad -- that's right you are complaining because it came from Microsoft. Sorry I forgot.
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by castelazo August 21, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
If you are unsatisfied because Photosynth only runs for windows, then you should consider make the program yourself!!! And do it right and OS independent. This is a great piece of software, innovative and I think many of us will love to use it.

If you run a mac, then you should know you are not Photosynth target. Also, Mac has software that runs ONLY in a MAC. But, hey, It's Microsoft, we MUST hate them, right?

Congrats MS!!

PS: I do respect the MAC and all its users just the same way I respect PC users. Be objective.
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by dude7895 August 22, 2008 8:45 AM PDT
Awesome program, very fun to use. To all the mac users who are complaining about it not running on your computer, grow up. Apple only makes software for there own computer, at least MS makes there software available to anyone.
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by Fastlap1 August 23, 2008 2:27 PM PDT
If MS makes its software available to everyone, how is it that Photosynth runs ONLY on a Mac OS inferior clone called Windows? I have both Windows and Mac computers. My poor Windows machine has not been fired up for months. I got tired of the crashes and lot of other bad stuff. That said, other than Windows, MS does create some very good apps.
by DennisMcCK August 23, 2008 9:21 PM PDT
Have you never heard of iTunes or Safari?
by restoration85 August 22, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
It does actually work within Firefox!
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by ndotkrame August 22, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
hated microsoft until this article.

dave jennings - quit bro'in out. it's a party, and you're no longer invited. take your things and get the hell out of my house.
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by j_a_s_p_e_r August 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT
What if it is "non-destructive" in a sense that all the data is retained, but just arranged spacially. Photosynth keeps the photos 2D but arranges them in 3D so you can see where the photographer stood and what direction he was looking, it also shows how one photo relates to another.
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by Zanny_Osmond August 22, 2008 2:41 PM PDT
This is an AWESOME piece of MICROSOFT software! And it works just fine in Firefox.

Not on a Mac? WHO CARES? Let the 3% club fondle their iMovie & Final Crap Pro.

Better yet, let the fix MobileMEss instead. Way to go, Microsoft!
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by August 24, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
I just think it's boring. Even the "good" synths, submitted by National Geographic, apparently, are pretty dull and incomplete. If they are composed of hundreds of original photos, where are they? Probably because of the original photos, the synth jumps around unexpectedly and unpredictably.

Although the subject matter is Really dull, the synth by Josh is at least more complete, and flowing. Maybe if it somehow catches-on, and professional photographers agree to take hundreds of shots surrounding their intended subject, some nice wrap-around panoramas might end-up on the sites. But what's there now is just plain dull.

I'd like to see someone at Nasa synth together some panoramas from the Mars rovers, now That might be cool.
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by BizziM August 26, 2008 6:42 AM PDT
Well i think its a great idea.. although, (i cant find it so forgive me if its available) it would be great if a plugin was available for all browsers so you could create the photosynmths and then embed them within ones own website and share them that way. Im sure that must be possible.
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by goodspeed8701 August 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
the apple this a[[le that. i dont see them making good softwares for every one to enjoy. besides its microsoft u are never liking them so i am no suprised u like the someware only that the mac gives u limited computer abilities
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