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February 21, 2007 11:15 AM PST

Outlook + new daylight-saving time = a series of unfortunate events

Posted by Rafe Needleman
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Dear Microsoft,

What the heck is wrong with you people?

Let me ask you the question another way. When I set up a birthday in Outlook, what makes you think that when the time zone changes, a birthday should move forward or back accordingly? But that's just what happened when I got my automated patch for the new daylight-savings time. Between March 11 and April 1, all my appointments moved back one hour. My father-in-law's birthday became a 24-hour event that takes place from 1 a.m. on March 21 to 1 a.m. on March 22. Since the event was changed everywhere it appeared on my calendar, not just on his 2007 birthday, I had to call my wife to figure out which date was actually correct.

A weird birthday.

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All my appointments from March 11 to April 1 also moved, including repeating daily appointments that Outlook now wants me to be late for, and even air travel appointments that Outlook wants me to miss entirely.

The same thing happened to my wife's calendar. She's fuming. And I'm just waiting my dad, whom I do tech support for, to call me up, utterly bewildered by this change. I'm also not looking forward to what's going to happen to my calendar when I update the daylight-saving period on my Windows mobile phone.

Microsoft's official position on this? According to its own knowledge base, "Consider any calendar items in the extended DST period to be suspect. If you are not sure, verify the correct time with the organizer." This is in spite of a Microsoft Web page and a downloadable utility that's supposed to fix time-change mishaps. But the utility, in addition to being confusing to use, doesn't work reliably (it fixed the birthday problem for me, but not other meetings).

A confusing fix.

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I've never liked the way Outlook handles time zones. It changes appointments around when you change the time on your computer, which is hardly (if ever) what you want it to do. Hello, Microsoft: Just because I adjust my clock, it doesn't mean I want you to rewrite all my calendar entries.

Now, I know that there are reasons for Outlook to try to integrate time-keeping with its calendar. In an organization that uses Exchange, for example, people in different time zones can set up appointments with each other and everybody will show up at the right time. That's very nice. Until, of course, someone gets on an airplane to come to a meeting they've set up in their home time zone, and shows up at the wrong time because they changed their PC's clock to the time at the destination, only to have Outlook move the appointment on them.

This is why Web-based calendars are so much better: Because they don't try to be clocks, too. The functions are different, and Outlook needs to be fixed so it's not trying to be both at once.

Rafe Needleman writes about start-ups, new technologies, and Web 2.0 products, as editor of CNET's Webware. E-mail Rafe.
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Add a Comment (Log in or register) 11 comments
Luckily I don't track my calendar on Outlook.
by alex_mayorga February 21, 2007 11:47 AM PST
To be honest I'm a bit feed up with this DST "glitch" at work, but you managed to bring up the funny side.
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Correction
by blablupp February 21, 2007 1:08 PM PST
Yes, I've gotten bitten too, but not by changing the time--by changing the timezone.

You write:
> Until, of course, someone gets on an airplane to come to a meeting they've set up in their home time zone, and shows up at the wrong time because they changed their PC's clock to the time at the destination, only to have Outlook move the appointment on them.

That's just wrong. When someone gets on a plane to go to a meeting somewhere else, they should NOT change the time, they should change the timezone. But this is where these idiots at Microsoft Outlook mess up. Changing the timezone moved my appointments and turned all-day events into 24-hour events
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It's not just Outlook...
by unclesquares February 21, 2007 3:09 PM PST
Hello, any IT person would be able to tell you that this affects both Mac and Windows OS'es. Entourage and Lotus anyone?? Yeah, it's a pain in the @ss getting all this stuff fixed in time, but we've been at it for a month already...
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Blame it on the politicians...
by treet007 February 21, 2007 4:13 PM PST
I believe the problem is not Microsoft but the U.S. politicians. Daylight savings time (DST) is not required, especially when forced school busing forces the kids to be up early in the morning (in the dark, even with DST) to get the bus to school. DST is no longer required and is basically stupid!

IMHO
--GIF
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thank you...
by xxdesmusxx February 22, 2007 10:46 AM PST
Thank you for pointing out this logic.

This has nothing to do with Microsoft. If you want to hate someone, hate the politicians for this bit of painful stupidity.

I love with idiots make decisions that they don't even remotely understand AND then they will be the same people ******** about it's repercussions.

Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?
Not so fast...
by bmedicky February 23, 2007 6:25 AM PST
I think you're missing the point of having DST: by allowing more sunshine during people's waking and working hours, there will be some savings of energy, at least as far as indoor illumination goes. you won't need to turn the lights on so soon and they'll stay on for a shorter time before the day is done.
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indicative of the rot that has set in at Microsoft
by interoperate February 23, 2007 1:32 AM PST
Your experiences join the growing chorus of irate Microsoft users who are being fed poor quality, poorly tested software.

The reasons are simple:
1. Microsoft has been suffering a massive drain of its best staff and is rushing out products without proper testing.

2. It is losing in lots of competitive bouts and is becoming increasingly desperate, and in the process making more and more mistakes at all levels.

3. Best solution > migrate to Gmail Calendar.

frank
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I wish they would also fix these problems
by AdamCogan February 23, 2007 1:47 AM PST
SSW Microsoft Outlook Suggestions

http://www.ssw.com.au/ssw/Standards/BetterSoftwareSuggestions/Outlook.aspx

Adam
www.ssw.com.au
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Wait till you uninstall IE7 . . .
by cafox513 February 23, 2007 7:32 AM PST
Install then uninstall IE7 (because of the disaster it wreaks on your system), and you could have what I have: Outlook (sic!) hijacking "default mail handler" status from Outlook Express. No reason. A new "feature?"
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Simple fix that MS refuses to implement
by mryanaz February 25, 2007 8:54 AM PST
There is a relatively simple fix for Outlook that MS has never considered necessary; add a checkbox to each appointment that designates fixed time or relative time.

Fixed time means that the appt is to be ignored when the time on the PC is changed -- for any reason.

Relative means change the appt time as the PC's time is changed -- for any reason. Thus, relative mimics today's operating characteristics.

Additionally, add a selection under "Options" to set the default setting for newly created appts: relative or fixed.

I cannot imagine the code changes necessary in order to implement such a simple feature request is too complex for MS to include.

I am more inclined to think MS is just being the normal, arrogant company it has been for years.
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