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October 29, 2007 5:59 PM PDT

A modest proposal: Universal login from Google

Posted by Rafe Needleman
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There are so many useful apps that run on the Web, one could be lulled into thinking that it's possible to get by without traditional software. Certainly we can get by on the Web alone, and do e-mail, write documents, chat, videoconference, listen to music, play games, and so forth, all without leaving the browser.

The problem is that every time you go to a new site or service, you need to log in to it. There are hacks to make this easier (I use Roboform to manage passwords), but we shouldn't need to have a different login for every service. It's a pain in the neck.

There is some chance that OpenID could clear things up. It's a clever solution that's based on the premise that if you log in to a known secure service, that site can authenticate you to other services. But I fear OpenID is too conceptually different from the standard signon-with-password concept for consumers to grasp.

Here's what I'd like to see: The Google login used to authenticate other services. We've already got a suite of apps that we can access from one Google ID. Wouldn't it be useful if Google offered authentication as a service to other Web 2.0 sites?

This isn't an original idea. Microsoft has been trying to create the universal login for years. And actually, I would not be surprised to see this sooner from Amazon, which already has a full suite of Web services that developers can tap into; if the login service used Amazon.com IDs, it'd be very useful.

This is one of the great things about Facebook: Once you're logged in, for the most part you don't need to create a new user identify when you add new apps to your profile. The rest of the Web should be so easy.

Rafe Needleman writes about start-ups, new technologies, and Web 2.0 products, as editor of CNET's Webware. E-mail Rafe.
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Should we use OpenID today?
by web2.0_guy October 29, 2007 7:14 PM PDT
As developers of new web app, this is an issue we debated for quite awhile, internally. Several of us REALLY wanted to use OpenID, but upon further consideration of our core market, we thought that they would find the process of going to a 3rd party to get an ID too confusing. Our audience isn't necessarily very techie, and we're keeping that point front and center as we develop. Simplicity is key.

Of course, if we could use a web services API (from a VERY trusted source) to register from within our app, that would be ideal -- and a no brainer.

We second the motion to lobby Google to do this.

All in favor?
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I need a subject for this comment
by unodewaal October 30, 2007 3:14 AM PDT
Check out Identitu.de, it's an OpenID provider backed by your Facebook profile. The issue is not to get these guys to adopt open standards, the issue is to get other services to adopt OpenID or some other identity solution.
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If Google does it....
by tundey October 30, 2007 5:11 AM PDT
How will Google doing it be any different than Microsoft's attempts? I think OpenID is a better solution.

As to the question of whether or not to support OpenID in new webapps, the answer is Yes! Support OpenID but also allow people to authenticate using username/password
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Agreed . . . . . . . . . .
by amariotti October 30, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
I am a huge Google Fan. I've been converting my family to become Google fans. With blogging, groups, mail, calendar, docs, etc. there's no reason that this shouldn't happen. It would make a lot of sense. Google is king!
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Anything but that
by mbmac October 30, 2007 8:52 AM PDT
Google handles the login, even within their own properties, TERRIBLY. You can use separate logins on some subdomains, there are different password requirements for different services that keep you form using a single account across all of them, certain accounts will log you out of others, and on and on. Try using Gmail, Webmaster Tools, AdSense and AdWords all at once, and then decide if that's the kind of joy you want to export across the web.

I'd rather have a million different logins that actually work and stay logged in.
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